It looks all of you here have enough money to afford 300 pounds a month to spend on models. We see three key points to avoid these false copies: And if after reading this article you want to do something positive about this, its quite easy actually. Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. Add to Cart. They are the backbone of the operation and have done this for years to create wonderful minis as well as a great line of paints. Their prices are so small that nobody in the world could copy their figurines. If you dont have the money to afford models, dont buy them. I think theres one thing that need to be said here regardless of ip. Please fill out the following fields to login: Username. See our, and recently hired an infringements assistant. As Alchemy said, they drive more new hobbyists away by doing it in this and inevitably lose out of profit in the long run. And its not more acceptable if its one of your friends or idols who did it (remember a particular space wolf bust?). Especially when taken out of context or without a clue of whats going on here Sure there are Chinese recasters, unfortunately I hate to break it to you, but all of the biggest and well known recasts world wide produced here are made by westerners Bummer. If your opponent is upset about the time spent painting, you got him. Necron Canoptek Tomb Sentinel $ 45.30 Blood Angels MKVI Heads $ 8.00 Death Guard MKVI Heads $ 8.00 Night Lords MKVI Shoulder Pads $ 8.80 World eaters MkVI heads $ 8.00 Death Guard - Legion Praetor $ 17.20 Ultramarines Veteran Helmets $ 8.00 Word Bearers MKVI Shoulder Pads $ 8.80 Mortal wounds inflicted by attacks in addition to normal damage always apply, even if normal damage saved. A movement has started to help raise awareness about the loss of income these folks have started to experience recently. I myself am very pro recast, that being said maybe 5-10% of my models are recast. Just saying, this argument is fail. 20+ years of Warhammer and I only found out about recasts a few months ago. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. I love the crocodile tears about the indie companies. For legit business there is high quality resin, concept art, sculpting fees, box art, advertising and labour, please dont minimise this with a flipant statement. NetzlofDesign Structure Decals. Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant. The quality is just as good as forgeworld, sometimes you need to add a little greenstuff though but the same goes with forgeworld models. But what about the giant press they had to design and manufacture. or have you forgotten about the atrocious quality that was Citadel Finecast, here despite the shit quality we still saw an increase in price. Most sources of CDR are multiplicative, except Swiftness, magic stream and judgment. GW greed and agressive copyright protection has no sympathy in my hart, not to mention rule changing every year and leaving youngsters out of hobby due to pricing. Wait how is this killing the hobby ? GW also has a massive network of stores. Once properly modeled, assembled, and painted- it can be harder to tell. Place your opponent's suspected recast models under high heat for a couple minutes and see what happens. Railroad Hobby Store. Try to pay a good concept designer, a good sculptor, a good painter for box art, than doing promotion, pay tax, location, bills and what else and dont forget you need to have profit for time and risk you took. Did you complain about the Starbucks/Amazons/other tax dodgers? The models they had to sculpt digitally and then cast in a way they would both fit in the box, and be easy to mass produce. Their heart is closer to their craft, and I could not justify owning their product while paying someone else for it. Many RPG fans turn a blind eye to PDFs from defunct publishers, but studiously pay for legitimate PDFs from current publishers seeing the former as preserving the history of the hobby. As in Id pay the IP holder for this if a legit copy was available, but since the company is gone/author is dead/etc. So if people in the third world cant pay western prices having recasts means more of a hobby presence that pushes those who value original source into an ongoing if not growing stream of business. Im having to search now forgeworld has stop so many horus heresy models. This models multi-lasers can each be replaced with one of the following: 1 heavy bolter; 1 heavy flamer; 1 lascannon. You have entered an incorrect email address! One must ask whats in the customers best interest? Box 2225Southern Pines, NC 28387United States of America. Ought I go back to whipping them, or should they be permitted to return to working in the fields? The black rage is within us all. New & Exclusive Painting & Modelling Boxed Games Gifts Warhammer Community. Try again. A quick check of eBay appeared to turn up way fewer listings for Forge World than last week at this time. Why, then, does FW (who run a much smaller operation, fewer employees, use silicon moulds rather than the hundred thousand pound plastic ones) charge 40 for a box of 10 Krieg Troopers? Judge yourselves. We are actually preparing another post about that specific issue you are mentioning because that is a topic that will also lead to a huge discussion! You will create reports for the business to be discussed at monthly infringement meetings. How many of us would not be hobbyists if it wasnt for our local GW? There is no better way to understand the lousy quality of these recasts than by putting them in front of their originals. Ask on r/yoyhammer, more likely to find somebody versed in the many faces of recasts there. RELENTLESS 1CP/2CP This really rips ma knitting this! Well-versed in the art of war female warrior. Liste de cadeaux. Just saying individuals like that who do that have no moral compass. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. But there is a thing Id wish to point out, its the Chinese stigmatisation I am french living in China for about ten years now, and Chinese bashing is just a constant thing I hear from most of westerners and is absolutely not right either. The surfaces are very rough, have lots of pores and bubbles, there are important burr steps or details covered by extra resin. There are so many classic wfb models Id love to buy, but the second hand market is just crazy since aos happened and some models are just near impossible to find, even if you have the money. The more people there are who are anticipating the reveal of new stuff are there because there is an established community and it only gets better the bigger the community is. Its very easy to make an illegal copy of a miniature, especially if the country where its made has bad labour policies. Let explain with the simple aim of making you understand it the true depth of your act. 2023 Jose F. Reyes-Santana. You have not idea about, a totally ignorant. Totally agree with you, its morons like them who are putting a nail in the coffin of our hobby, I bought a recast by mistake off eBay, I thought I was buying a genuine Pegaso figure, when it arrived I knew instantly of the mistake Id made, everything that is bad in a casting was plain to see, the main thing being it should have been cast in white metal and was instead a poor resin cast instead, thankfully eBay took action and swiftly booted this pirate off. Assume all my mathhammer comes from here: We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. Specifically, the CDR has: FWs resin is also crap and brittle, not sure what your point is there. 33% of the original, and with a positive experience in my pocket Im more likely to stick into the hobby, which means more long term profits. She has seen and killed so many enemies, that The War has turned into The Game for her. Is it okay to create my own miniatures if they are not a product that Games Workshop creates or has any copyrights on? Seriously, if you received the package and looked at it carefully, you would understand what we are talking about. All of my recasts are better quality that forgeworkd or other manufacturers. Otherwise they would not be on eBay every time you open up to search for something. Reap what you sow. I will always buy the original product when I can, but Im also going to buy high quality recasts for models that I need multiples of. About 8,000 points of Black Legion Gallery. The cheap cost of resin you mention would only be associated with recasters. With those numbers the hobby will never die, thats amazing! It's hard for me to take issue with recasters. The elitism of GW is a prime example; They go so far as not allowing official models in their store tourneys, even when a reasonable counts-as. Despite every measure taken, with the evolution of websites and social networks, recasting has become nearly unstoppable. One scratch and the cd buff is gone. Chalk it up to male vs female framework and it works, otherwise not really noticeable. If that was to happen then there is a chance of changing something. If charge successful, models make their charge move. With lots of great listings on ebay and tons more stuff at our Mt. The vast, vast majority of the models I buy are genuine GW products, but there gets a point where Im not going to spend 30 for each and every additional model in an army, which become often unusable in game as rules get re-released with almost each passing year. For a better comparison, I have cleaned all the copies of excess resin and plastic. Provide CPEUs. clearly you have no idea about running a business you think that when you buy a model you pay just for resin ? There wouldnt BE re-castes is the prices were reasonable in the first place. And I firmly put the blame into the hands of piracy aka stealing. Recasts: 3 reasons why we need to avoid illegal or unauthorized Death Korps of Krieg At Ease (2011) by Volomir, Amazing D&D Fantasy diorama tabletop terrain. Ah yes, Im so sorry messer, I apologize that the serfs are becoming so uppity as to assume that they might be able to afford some enjoyment in their pitiful lives. I havent bought any GW recasts yet but I support it because if it eventually hurts GW enough that they reevaluate their business practices and lower their prices, that will bring more people into the hobby and overall gaming will be better. Login. Thanks for the guys who give chance for better value and access to minis that I will never otherwice will be able to buy. The models chosen are both from Forgeworld, the Elysian Tauros Venator and the classic Lietpold the Black. I would agree with most of the points expressed in the comments, that the moral analysis of recasting begins and ends at theft. In this role, you will be monitoring websites and sales platforms to identify infringements and counterfeit products and then you will follow a structured process for removing those products, reducing counterfeit products available across all sales platforms and websites. I have been here buying from my local store from the past 25 years. Magic stream is great on paper, but in practice its kind of shet. Ive never bought a re-cast and never will. Things like Kodi make it seem harmless oh you clicked a few buttons and bingo it is there without any effort, so it must be harmless. Explore Scope and Practice. That does not mean I only buy from a recast seller , but expensive and big models worth of the discount . However, by doing so we are ignoring the damage that this does to the industry behind this hobby of ours. I do not buy such copies for moral reasons, but I will not buy original figurines. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. New JOYTOY Black Templars Sword Brethren Action Figures Hit Pre-Order! Since GW is in China, they are rocking hard, privateer press and corvus belli also understood that, so instead of making your products unavailable for some countries like this one, you should learn to work with them instead, because like it or not, they always find a way in, and as said earlier, its not from the one you think.