His original dogs always had cropped ears and a docked tail. According to the Doberman Pinscher Club of America ear cropping is done for two functional reasons. Owners will often do this more frequently if the ears get wet or dirty, or less frequently if they stay fairly clean. Rather, go after those who just think having an untrained pet is a ok. In fact, most wild animals that are carnivores have erect ears. Having the puppys ears up in a cup makes it very easy for you to keep the edges clean. Shes going on three years old . I dont pressure or judge anyone based on their style preference. Cropping and docking is simple human vanity. It does not typically take very long to stand. Required fields are marked *. cropping doberamn doberman ear help question 1 2 3 4 Next KUN636 New Member Feb 12, 2018 #1 So they just took the stitches off and now they taped her ears up. I looked it up here but it really for show she came with docked tail but the ears are not cropped i dont want them cropped want her to look cute but sassy as well right now she is my little fur baby she wont let me leave the room with out her i also have a 4 year-old and a 2 year old. The veterinarian that performs your dogs ear cropping will provide you with direction on aftercare which should be closely followed. Despite what many people think, Doberman puppies are actually born with long ears as well as a long tail! There are a few cases where a veterinarian might advise that it is, and usually, this is only in the case of a severely damaged ear from an accident, dog attack, or medical condition. There are three different lengths of ear crops: Ear cropping of the Doberman Pinscher is usually done at approximately 7 to 8 weeks of age. She had natural ears and a cropped tail and thought to have been used for breeding. Post-operation care is a time-consuming commitment. How much pain is hotly debated by both sides of this issue. All of the breeds that he produced are possible because an enormous number of repeated sequences in the canine DNA. After the cup comes off, they will need to be "posted" for several weeks or months depending on the dog and the style of crop for how long it may take. But not everyone agrees with the practice, and it definitely does have some downsides. When dogs play with each other, they go for the ears. Circumcision has scientific evidence in favor of reducing bacteria. These people grow up happy, loved, and functioning people of their community. I totally agree with you! Leaving your dogs ears uncropped in the hope that they will stand up on their own, wont work. Also, dogs with floppy ears tend to have more ear infections. The only way to get reliably erect ears on a Doberman, is to cut them before holding them in their new position until the ear cartilage has hardened. To learn more about this, see my article all about Doberman tail docking pros and cons. A big controversy in the European Doberman world is whether it is humane or not for a European Doberman owner to crop his puppys ears. The Doberman Pinscher breed standard in the United States is set by the American Kennel Club (AKC). We have observed the cropping ourselves, it is very simple. It is prudent for all Doberman owners and prospective owners to be fully educated on this topic so they can make the best choice for their dog and so that they can educate others that inquire (people always ask questions when they see a natural eared dobe or a puppy with tape on its ears). and the puppy is under anesthesia for only that time. In other words, there is no right answer here and owners can do what they please. As a lady, I have never had a tail, the need to be circumcised and do not have a tail nor ears that flop. This is because they believe the procedure is purely cosmetic and that it poses an unnecessary risk to the dog. After they are cropped, we keep them for another 14 days to provide after care and remove the stitches. Women choose that for themselves. Most breeders will perform the surgery when they still have the puppies under their care. Web1. Your email address will not be published. WebA quick tutorial to help you successfully post your Doberman's ears!www.kelviewdobermans.comwww.facebook.com/kelviewdobermans You remove or alter your elderly parents body parts because you think if they were different they would look better? Help?! Docking the tail prevents later on serious injury or damage. The medium crop gives the breed a more intimidating look which is ideal for any working dog, especially if their task is to protect the home. I think disfiguring an animal because it suits the owners eye is an extremely selfish thing to do. Pain medication and veteranarians increasing willingness to use it will help the Doberman recovering from an ear cropping. I always comply ! During this time they play just as rough if not more because the cone/cup on the head looks like a very fun chew toy! Theres a lot worse in this world than responsible cropping! On average I hear about $500. How much pain do yo think a dog is due for a cosmetic procedure? Two previous homes . So we should use our higher thinking brains and only do it when it is beneficial to our animals. And tails are needed for many functions apart from wagging or between their legs to express emotions, they are used physically for balance. She is capable of copying any style of crop and does it to perfection. : This ear is relatively short in length and has a wider base (bell). Please read and research for yourself. Certainly this can be seen as one downside to this procedure. However, owners The best ear crop for a Doberman is the one that stands. Interestingly, however, the ears being left in their natural state is not listed as a disqualifier in this document, but it would be considered a fault due to the following line which appears later in the document: The foregoing description is that of the ideal Doberman Pinscher. Ear Cropping in Dobermans. I would not like that done onto my self, Why would I inflicted on another being? The lycoan pictus, also known as the African wild dog, also has erect ears. The show crop has a long, curved shape and it takes many months for the ears to stand erect as well as almost a year of proper after-care. You do this to your human family members? Before you think, "well I'm just getting my dog as a pet, we don't plan on protection sport or unruly play with other dogs and I live in a safe neighborhood" The Doberman is always on watch. Timing will vary, but taping typically lasts about 6 months and it can take as long as a year for a long crop. In general, the cost of ear cropping ranges from $200 to $500. The following line appears further down in the document: Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog and its ability to perform its traditional work.. This will allow you to see adult dogs (the length of their ears, the style of their crops, etc. WebThe cost of ear cropping can vary depending on the style and the veterinarian that performs the procedure. I feel, it is a guilt trip you put responsible owners through. Dog Wellness: Great Tips To Help Your Dog Stay Happy And Healthy, Old Beagle: What You Need To Know As Your Dog Ages, Miniature Poodle Traits, Care and Personality. Since the age for docking (and dewclaw removal) is between 3-5 days old, and puppies are not picked out until 8+ weeks old, all our puppies will have tails docked and dewclaws removed. & threatening to fend of predators without risking my dog and my life. Did you have your babies ear lobes cut and fused to their skulls because attached lobes look better to you? If you dont like bologna. Also isnt neutering a animal painful or traumatic also completely against what they are made to do. This look has caught on and now a Doberman with erect and cropped ears is widely considered to be the traditional look for a Doberman. If you call around asking your local vet offices, they will probably offer a cropping service and say they have some experience, but verify it is the proper style by looking at pictures of past work. Although the success of the ear cropping seems to depend heavily on the consistency and technique of the ear posting by the owner. WebEar Cropping in History: The practice of ear cropping can be traced back to the early days of the Doberman Pinscher breed. WebShow Crop: This ear is the longest and a little narrower than the other two crops. The better news is that the recovery time for ear cropping is typically short. This is something thats worth considering as ear cropping, and its aftercare, is not always straightforward. all rights reserved. Many places have banned ear cropping entirely, including most European countries. Although rare, there is a long list of potential complications that can happen during an ear cropping procedure such as infections or even death. Clearly a cosmetic decision. : This ear is a little longer and has a little less bell. If you find yourself in the position to find a good cropping vet though, my best advice is to look up your state on the DPCA breeder referral and find breeders that are near you. During the surgery itself, its unlikely the dog will experience any pain due to the use of general anesthesia (the dog will be unconscious). After all, most call it ear cropping or refer to the dogs ears as cropped. Now a days i would say its for looks. I cant understand how people willingly puts their dog onto the surgical table. We also send our owners home with a posting starter pack containing a few pre cut backer rods and rolls of tape that should last until they can buy their own. Although the procedure does require the puppy to be anesthetized, it may lessen your fears about cropping to know that the operation takes only 30 min. I promised this beautiful Dobe , No One here will ever hurt her . I had her treated and she lived to be 15! Everybody, especially in the European doberman world, will have something to critique or comment on, but the important thing is that you get what you want and paid for. Heres whats involved afterwards. Nor neutered. My second was a rescue from the shelter and about 1.5 years old. From a historical perspective, ear cropping among Doberman dogs has been explained by the roots from the past ages. Just because wolves and coyotes have erect ears doesnt mean it isnt natural for other breeds. Natural, uninjured ear carriage in a Doberman is never upright. Is ear cropping painful for a Doberman? Before I bought my first doberman, I didnt know much about it and thought it was normal. A friend of ours had a Doberman as a pet, she had a completely unexpected domestic dispute with someone she knew and trusted for many years - her Doberman turned on to the attacker. The posts remain in the puppys ears until the ears will stand erect on their own. Excessive bleeding after surgery is a common clinical finding and severely affected dogs may bleed to death from surgical procedures. Some into old age, if you will. She already had cropped ears and was trained. You just justify it by saying to helps with unwanted dogs being born. We believe in cropping and docking for the Doberman Pinscher. There are also newer techniques being used such as laser ear cropping that drastically reduces the healing time. floppy ears) were diagnosed with a type of ear infection whereas only 12.8% of dogs with erect ears were (source). In the United States, the majority of veterinarians will not crop a puppys ears. Even though the facts are not certain, the European doberman bloodline is said to consist of the Beauceron, German Pinscher, Rottweiler, Weimaraner, Greyhound, and Manchester Terrier. No crop it is. Tilting the head might be an attempt to compensate for this lack of control. No exceptions. There is higher incidence of penile cancer in men who are uncircumcised. How much does ear cropping cost? They don't want to risk the cropping being done unethically or poor quality. There are people who want their Doberman to appear as intimidating as possible. Its like saying that short hair on dogs is a natural occurrence and therefore. I seen no signs of pain. In some dogs, surgery may not be successful and these dogs sometimes undergo additional surgery. Also isnt it more important that the dog is taken care of for its entire life by the owner than the owner choosing to give it a Breed standard look if thats the reason they picked the dog. Essentially the ears are taped over the head to keep them upright and wrapped with gauze for protection. Other countries follow a different breed standard such as the Federation Cynologique Internationale (FCI) which has no such requirements. Where can you get a Dobermans ears cropped? The vet will have a pre-surgery There is scientific reason to neuter dogs. No. Doberman ear crops should only be done under the guidance of an experienced Doberman vet/breeder/handler. This is something that humans have bred with the domestication of animals. The Doberman is the ONLY breed bred for personal protection. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Happy Puppy Site is a participant in the Amazon EU Associates Programme, an affiliate advertising programme designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.co.uk, The Happy Puppy Site is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. So in other words, you can expect a Doberman in the show ring to get penalized for not having cropped ears, but its not an automatic disqualifier. The shorter the ears are cropped, the easier and faster they usually tend to stand. Third, we are concerned about ear infection. All of our European doberman puppy owners get a live demonstration of our posting method and aftercare procedures when they arrive at the kennel for pickup. With daily care of cleaning the ears thoroughly this risk can be reduced. The ears are then taped or sometimes glued to a post for 35 days at a time. The ethical method of cropping is an art done by a licensed, skilled, and experienced veterinarian. The Doberman breed is a man-made creation, just like most dog breeds in existence, and they have many features that would never occur in the wild. Females will be between 50 and 60 pounds. If the puppies have not already been cropped you may be able to choose to leave your puppy with natural ears. If the ears are caught or torn or pulled hard enough, they are likely to bleed very heavily and really hurt. Like tail docking, clipping dogs ears is standard practice in some breeds in the USA. If you want to remove anything from your dog, testicles, ear cropping, tail) think about doing it on yourself first. I only noticed when looking at photos and videos I took of her running. Reading through your information made me realize I wouldve have been cropping for myself, not what the dog needed. The look for the breed is meant to be regal, also described as "the look of eagles." In addition, the bleeding disorder known as Von Willebrands disease has a particularly high frequency in Dobermans. WebEar cropping is a surgical procedure in which a portion of the dogs ear is removed, producing a sharper and less heavy ear. The breed standard states that the Doberman Pinscher should have ears that are cropped and held in an erect position. This look is hardly achieved with un-cropped ears. She was outstanding, loyal, loving, and great with children. Breed organizations like the American Kennel Club still endorse the practice of ear cropping to maintain the traditional breed standards. Every single one of these breeds has the unnatural floppy ear trait. Would I do it again, probably not. Our European doberman puppies get cropped around 6-9 weeks of age in our USA Kennel, and around 8-10 weeks of age in our Serbia Location. In my experience with my Dobermans, I have never noticed pain around the time of the surgery. Otherwise, it will likely have no bearing on your decision. Although we often laugh at the prospect of seeing our Doberman Pups with cups on their heads, it really is the easiest way to keep the ears upright while they heal. The medium crop is the final option of the three Doberman ear cropping styles. Breed standards are beyond dumb, animals arent an aesthetic. The general perception of a cropped Doberman thanks to movies and television is that theyre more aggressive and potentially dangerous than if they have floppy ears. The operation is just the beginning. Human circumcision is most commonly performed for religious and/or cultural reasons, whereas dog ear cropping really is purely cosmetic, but neither are primarily medical. It is a liability and disservice to leave them un-cropped when it is their nature to act for you. The ear wrappings do, at times, seem to annoy the dogs as the months go by during the posting stage (but the ears are fully healed at this point). Replacing the ear posts on a Doberman can take 15 to 45 minutes depending on the specific technique thats used and how experienced you are with the posting procedure. The Doberman breed was created in the 1890s by a German tax collector, night watchman, and local dog catcher named Karl Friedrich Louis Dobermann. Essentially with the cropped Doberman, the aim is to comply with show standards or are cropped because the owners like the way it makes the dog look. Being able to be quickly identified as a Doberman can make it less likely for someone to challenge the dog due to the Dobermans reputation for fearlessness, loyalty, and protectiveness over their owners. Many argue that putting your dog through a surgery that they dont medically need is immoral. The procedure is not recommended The very first thing your puppy will want to do after being cropped is eat - which shows you how much the whole procedure actually bothers a young puppy!! Often, the ear set will result in long hanging ears that droop, which detracts from the look of the chiseled, wedge shaped head. 2014. prima dobermans. The procedure is most often performed on European Doberman puppies as early as 6 weeks of age and as late as 12 weeks of age. With regard to the theory that erect ears are more accurate at sonic locating, I would point out that when the dog has control over the elevation of each ear, you will often find them listening with one ear in a lower position than the other. We believe she is the best European doberman ear cropping veterinarian in the United States. Please take the great big beam out of your eye before you take the speck out of mineWould you give a life saving vaccine or medication or perhaps a medical procedure to your loved one which has been cruelly tested on an animal?? Thank you for making my decision easier. There is no set amount of time it takes before a puppys ears will stand; the average time for taping is approximately 4-5 months. Like a previous person stated, would you decide to put your son through the pain of having him circumcised?? Doberman ear cropping is now banned in many countries. We don't like to think about it but emergencies can happen, certain events or circumstances in our lives may absolutely require us to rehome our dog. A Doberman without clipped ears is not overly susceptible to ear infections or hearing loss. Extreme activists are lobbying to take away our choices and ban all cropping and docking. I have always had my Dobermans ears cropped, and I am talking 2 that I have had. There are those who insist that ear cropping is a part of the breeds identity. He wanted to create a dog Sometimes the ears will both stand but other times one ear may be crooked. Yall are just mad that you were wrong about cropping ears. When you visit a litter of Doberman puppies youll probably find that the puppies ears are still in their natural state. So I didnt have it done and would never do it. Always kept them how they were born. I will shame you. We use the Backer Rod method to post our European doberman puppies. This process is necessary for the hardening of the cartilage and the strengthening of the muscles around and in the ear. Doberman ear crops can be of different lengths and styles. How to find a puppy and raise a happy, healthy dog, January 13, 2023 By Jane Pinzhoffer 65 Comments. Its often fairly time-consuming to post a Dobermans ears in the right position and it involves inserting a support into the ear (like a foam rod, cardboard, or plastic support), and then wrapping the ear to stay in place. Tell us your thoughts on Doberman ear cropping in the comments below. Many still question the ethics of this procedure. When cropping a Dobermans ears, we may think theres only one style. Not afraid to come to me asking for love and attention . This is a silly argument. She was wonderful with children, too! Many breeders and professional handlers of Dobermans will say that ear cropping is a fairly painless and relatively minor procedure, however, theres an equal number of advocates who claim its painful and cruel to the animal. Here are some of the potential drawbacks, or downsides, to getting your Dobermans ears cropped as argued by those who are against ear cropping. If done right and with proper aftercare I dont believe it causes undue pain. Ear cropping is real animal cruelty. Also consider the additional fees for medicine if the vet charges extra, for travel if it is required, and for after care supplies/tapes. Many of those same countries have exceptions to allow cropping and docking on dogs meant to do working sport/competition such as Schutzhund. This is especially true outside the United States. Remove any dirt, wax, or debris inside the ear They are sedated (anesthetized), cropped, and the edges are stitched up. Usually, this occurs when the dog is around 6 months of age, but it can be as late as 12 months of age if its a longer crop or the dogs ear cartilage is slow to firm up. WebThe ears are sutured after cropping and taped over the head by the vet and then covered with gauze or glued to a piece of Styrofoam between them. Many people think so, and the procedure is now banned in many areas. This answer is one that most people are completely unaware of. They have only made it possible for dogs with the natural look of floppy ears and a long tail to be shown in their competitions. Cropping a Dobermans ears costs between $300 to $800 on average. Look at the wolf, hyena, fox, coyote, etc and you will consistently see that mother nature has adapted these animals in the wild to have upright ears, or if the ears do come downward they are not closing off the canal in such a way that the man bred breeds of dogs of today do. Are you implying that ear cropping should be used to prevent cancer in dogs?